Free Speech, Hate Speech, the UN and Youtube
Dеѕріѕе speech іѕ basically аn impossible concept. All уου hаνе tο dο іѕ turn up уουr sensitivities аnd thеn EVERYTHING counts аѕ dеѕріѕе speech. Due tο іtѕ subjective nature іtѕ essentially unworkable. Islam іѕ very ехсеllеnt аt getting offended bу nearly anything, аѕ іѕ scientology. Both аrе very heavy οn trying tο classify people whο call thеm οn thеіr psychotic beliefs аѕ dеѕріѕе-mongers. Further thе recent UN pledge tο hаνе a crack tο criminalize blasphemy іѕ both a step іn thе incorrect direction аnd іѕ unworkable. Bυt whеn people аrе using thеіr free speech tο advocate thе kіllіng οf others, thеу hаνе broken thе law. Bυt whаt tο dο whеn such a minority constitutes a significant раrt οf thе population? Options include education οf western values, imprisonment, οr segregation. Naturally іf thеу саn present a convincing line οf reasoning іn аn open forum fοr changing thе law, thеn thats hοnеѕt enough, bυt before уου hаνе tο acknowledge thаt уου аrе nοt allowed tο threaten anyone whο disagrees wіth уου wіth death οr violence. Finally youtube. C0ctapus gοt suspended. Hе hеlреd out wіth ουr recent protest against youtube. Apparently nο reason wаѕ given. I dont remember tοο much аbουt hіѕ videos οthеr thаn thеу wеrе οf a similar topic (thе problems wіth religion etc) tο thіѕ channel. Hе аlѕο wаѕ a supporter οf free speech. Thetaomega hаd a satire οf Fred Phelps taken down: www.youtube.com C0ct0pus іѕ back аt: www.youtube.com
About the UN the devil is in the details. Yes superficially it might look like the US, but for example I don’t want to see countries like Chile or Nicaragua punished because they do not legalize fetal homicide. I also don’t want to see America under UN authority be forced to punish Americans for spanking or homeschooling.
If you want to deal with global warming or other global issues there is a simple solution for that that does not involve the UN and allows us to keep Islamism under control. Simply allow us to imperialize the globe, and we will make any nation that goes Islamofascist pay for the bulk of carbon credits.
I personally have nothing against Jews, but i am sick and tired of hearing them whine.
Lol is it really illeagal to deny it. Cause i’m GLAD i live in the fantastic U.s. of A cause i deny it left and aptly. Sure, yes, a bunch of jews died. But nobody, NOBODY cares about the far superior number of Russians that died. About the Bataan death marches. About any of the cruel and unsual punish ments the japs inflicted on the Chinese. Jews will always be Jews, constantly complaining about their own problem and never realizing they aren’t the only people that went through hardships.
I’m am a aussie and if fred w phelps said that to me on the street i would i would hit him really hard with a very huge stick free speech or not.
I agree with freedom of speech, even from persons who I don’t agree with, but I don’t agree with the UN and the one world government. There’s enough corruption and abuse of peoples rights and freedoms from our current governments, we don’t need a massive world gov to enhance more of the same. UN human rights on free speech? Check YT for them allowing the arrests of ppl who tried to exercise their freedom of speech and expression at COP15. Preventative arrests no less, for crimes they might do.
@KingRadbadical1988 If you don’t like government, Afghanistan is to place to be!
Whether you say bullshit or not doesn’t change the fact that these people have been jailed for “Holocaust Denial and despise speech”:
David Irving, Fredrick Töben, Ernst Zündel, Germar Rudolf, Ahmed Rami and MANY more, these are more of the well-known once.
When you see that many people go to jail, then it’s basically pointless to research the Holocaust and trying to find out the truth since it’s just a Dictatorship in disguise as a Democracy.
Hypocrites! I say.
@cigolone1 Well that’s bullshit!!! NOONE should go to jail for talking gibberish no matter HOW stupid the gibberish they talk is.
You’re only going to make racists more mad and hateful. Putting human beings in cages doesn’t solve anything.
The despise speech laws in Europe make me despise Jews. Kinda like how the Patriot Act makes me despise 9/11-victim-worshipers.
The psychotic conservatism here in America and the psychotic liberalism in Europe are both examples of society being fucked over by too much government. And us place together make the full first world, is this REALLY the best planet Earth has to offer?
I’ve heard of people being locked up just for being anti-Illuminati. FUCK governments. And fuck racists too but the fact that its ILLEGAL to deny the holocaust in Europe is what MAKES me believe the holocaust never happened. What are they hiding?
wow, I so want to fallow anyone that opens up with ‘god despises….’
There’s a fine line between ‘just free speech’ and ‘despise speech’, and the line is pinched differently for every individual. consequently, this problem can not be solved by the systems of law and government.
In Canada its only despise speech if you incite violence against a distinguishable group. You can opine your personal feelings about anyone you like, just dont try to talk others into hurting them.
I vaguely remember conception that someone dismissed the holocaust as myth as was facing jail time. The guy sounded like a prick who would be well served with time in jail, but I reckon the speech laws in most of Europe are far too austere and he shouldn’t go to jail for that reason.
Ok. Well. Here in Europe I can be sent to prison for several YEARS for expressing skepticism about the Holocaust.
Nope thats just ignoring history, which happens all the time.
Saying you reckon all the Jews should have been sent to a gas chamber… thats despise speech
There was no Gas-Chamber Holocaust of the Jews. Should I be able to say such things? Is THIS considered “despise speech”?
Yeah well YouTube’s scene of free speech is as warped as the bible.
It would seem to me that you are applying a slippery slope line of reasoning here. The mere fact that there is no bright line which separates acceptable satire and legitimate political agitation from racist propaganda does not mean that it is impossible to draw useful distinctions.
And while the state may not be the best venue for shutting down far-aptly garbage-mongers, shut down they must be. Far-aptly speech is amply demonstrated to lead to far-aptly proceedings. Proceedings that we can ill afford to permit.
The way you narrated the copyright issues with You Tube made it feel like the opening to a knowledge fiction movie =p
one of your best tf00t
all current members are sovereign states, please name the tyrants
The problem with the UN is you’ve got all sorts of different governments thrown in there, from the best to the most tyrannical. It’s not like the United States. The countries in the UN do not all agree on any single overarching principle.
I’m an Aussie too, the guy is not against us in particular, he is a genuine phycopath / sociopath and is against all of humaity except the church he founded and filled with a half dozen of his family memebers. The only difference between him and Charles Manson is that Manson really killed people.
I agree with.
Dude, I was really being stupid, I was acting like that asshole on the video, Aussies are super cool.