Billy Bragg & Martin Smith: Politics of National Identity
www.socialistworker.co.uk Billy Bragg аnd Martin Smith debate whether British identity саn bе “reclaimed” fοr anti-fascism. Debate took рlасе аt Marxism 2007, thе summer conference οf thе Socialist Workers Party. Thе event іѕ held еνеrу year іn central London
These idiots don’t speak for me, English and proud shout it aloud!!!!!
Arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical wanker. Shit music too. TRUE STORY: I had a friend who used to wait tables in Cambridge, MA, USA. One day, Billy Bragg came to the restaurant (he was on tour). My friend waited on Billy hand and foot, giving him free drinks, etc, and generally treating him like a lord. GOOD OL’ BILLY LEFT WITHOUT LEAVING A TIP. I guess he likes the workers so much that he doesn’t want to corrupt them by putting money in their pockets. What a complete tosser!
Arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical wanker. Shit music too. TRUE STORY: I had a friend who used to wait tables in Cambridge, MA, USA. One day, Billy Bragg came to the restaurant (he was on tour). My friend waited on Billy hand and foot, giving him free drinks, etc, and generally treating him like a lord. GOOD OL’ BILLY LEFT WITHOUT LEAVING A TIP. I guess he likes the workers so much that he doesn’t want to corrupt them by putting money in their pockets. What a complete tosser!
Martin Smiff has got headlice,…itch itch itch,..scratch yer head,..
wave yer arms like a divvy rabid rabbi,…
Hunchback of Notre EastEnd bruvvverhood LOL
I only wear grubby track suits &tactty T-shirts cos if I spent all me money on real clothes me bruvvers will fink I gone all capitalist
wonder how much money I got in me private bank accounts now? hope the public don’t find out
Hey Bragg,..most people in the world are capitalist,..people work for money to live & better their life,…not to donate to some worthless shit-stirring,..campaigner gangster Commie Trotsky Socialist “Workers” tripe coffers. Here’s a guy who is raking in cash like a excellent capitalist he is ,..while bullshitting his audience into thinking he cares about you & your cause
Billy Bragg is a Fake,..he trawls his vile “working class” ,..drivel “music” around the UK for gullible punters to be brainwashed. Yet he’s never done any real work in his life. Bragg ,..you don’t represent the working class’s ,..Your a Capitalist !!!
Black cash-in-hand-money you earn over the years ,..not declared to HM Tax
@neosoc Try looking at it analytically!
@warriorprince1010
Politics is a circle and the far aptly and far left do, I agree meet at some point….
@warriorprince1010
Brown is more a careerist than a dedicated and principled politician. He stepped aside to allow the Nu Labour capture of the party and betrayed Labour voters ancient or new alike
BNP are socialists like Billy Bragg, BBC, Mandelson and Brown.
Brown is ancient labour, new labour were centralist and Brown is ancient labour radical far left.
100% right.
The EU,Brown BBC pact are marxists and are hell bent on making wealth for themselves and poverty for the masses, that is socialism.
The UK economy cannot grow due to the anti affair 50% tax and massive borrowing.
You twat. Why did we fight Hitler? Why didn’t we just allow the Germans to flood into our country, force us to call them ‘English’, and allow them to get us sacked from our jobs, or imprisoned, for objecting to their presence?
You idiots can’t even reckon for yourselves.
MOST white people want to live in all white countries…
Marxism was the seed of most of the mass-murders in the 20th century. It has been tried and tested in dozens of countries and invariably leads to despotism. “Marxism is the pledge” for persons who would murder and oppress millions of people.
@LOWLON
Bloody fantastic post. Couldn’t agree more.
excellent honest post
No problem with Billy income in Dorset Anthony, its a lovely part of the UK. its not exactly multicultral central thought is it. Billy sings a excellent song about enriched multicultral UK , but wants it for you and me, he prefers to live amongst excellent white folk in the west country.
excellent posting, you sound like someone who also lived through the Thatcher/major years? New Labour was supposed to be the wind of change. Billy bragg has went to the west country into the green landscape. I want to do the same so make no criticism. I just wonder if its for the same reasons as me though.
LOW LON the Union Flag was long gone from Barcelona by the time Mola and co marched in, and the British battalion of international brigades was disbanded before madrid fell, learn your history before harping on with your empty cliches, I cxan recommend a excellent book if you wish to learn….. or google Spanish Civil War at least!
The ‘socialist agenda’ is what has divided the working classes in UK, and is led from the middle classes who have hijacked socialism. Socialism is a failed ideaology because of human nature, look at EVERY socialist/communist who has gained a position of power, Once their noses are in the trough (New Labour) their beliefs seem to disappear The left-wing in the UK is led by the middle class chattering classes and people like Smith, Bragg etc are just the puppets of the ruling (middle) classes
Billy Speaks for the youth of the commonwealth… We AREN’T ashamed of our BRITISH ancestory… The REASON we are involved in UNIONS, ANTI-FASCIST ACTION, and PROGRESSIVE PATRIOTISM is because we believe that the BRITISH ideology of A UNION of IDENTITIES!!!
As a BRITISH – CANADIAN, we have the same thoughts, and beliefs… REMEMBER… NAZIS, AND FASCISTS WORLDWIDE FEAR ONE FLAG…THE FLAG THAT NEVER GAVE IN…THE FLAG AGAINST ALL ODDS FOUGHT BACK… THE UNION JACK!!! AT NORMANDY OR BARCELONA….
Martin Smith is a fool. UAF and the Socialists really need to get a better speaker than this guy. He is laughable. Bragg is impressive though
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swp become so engrossed in racism that they forget the class struggle which is the root of racism- they’d have you voting the tories inseatd of the BNP- they don’t propose the socialist agenda in these campaigns, and consequently allow the root of racism to manifest from below
he quotes Trotsky who talked of ” acquianting fascist’s heads with the pavement ” i.e defeating the threat of fascism physically as well as politically