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@gurkotron Sorry, but there is no statistical data to show that Americans are anything but FAR less healthy than ANY other population on the planet, or in history. That the HC industry is ripping us off is right–which is why Obamacare forces you to buy their? highly monopolized manufactured goods irrespective of risk. Ain’t it amusing how the revenues rise every time the Left comes up with another HC slogan. Why don’t Lefties see the corruption/capitalism in their own brand of pseudosocialism?
@thereinliestherib Where do I made your point?! I showed you Americans aren’t sicker or healthier then the rest of the 1st World. The Danish food tax is the first of their kind in total Europe. The per capita rate spend for HC in Denmark is 2,160 $. The German system isn’t taxed based. And I don’t deny the pool risk fact. I’m just telling you that your “health industry” is ripping you off. Every one else is doing it for the? half price. But what do I care, I’m not the one without insurance.
@gurkotron Well then–thank you for making my points. You’ve just absolutely skirted the stark differences in by and large health between these countries (stoutness, smoking, exercise rates, etc), while reaffirming that targeted taxes are what keeps their systems aloft. Your point sir? If you deny the fact that HC costs are? directly proportional to pool risk, and thus individual health, join the rest of the 90% of ignorant, bovine America.
@thereinliestherib You don’t get it do you? The tax rates in Denmark and also in Sweden are one of the highest in the total world.? The maximum rate in Denmark can get to 60% of your returns. On cars is a luxury tax of 150%. The welfare system in this states depending really on that. The average lifespan in Denmark is 77.2 years (OECD average is 77.8). The danish food is rich on Butter and Bacon – why do you reckon the government setup that tax, because people are so healthy?
@ABSpryteCube You make a excellent point about Denmark though–liberals always draw fake parallels between our system and persons of socalized Western countries. They are able to implement socialist healthcare precisely because their populations are healthier, and thus carry lower risk. They also impose taxes/fines/set of laws on the products and services which directly? contribute to higher HC costs. If you reckon that that would ever happen in the US of Corn Lobbies, keep dreaming…
@ABSpryteCube Only if you assume education has been insufficient. Do you really reckon people don’t know why they’re unhealthy? OF COURSE THEY DO. You’re? just the federal govt and the industry asking for more money, in order to implement the least effective strategies at the highest cost. It’s so fucking stupid. The solution is to force people to take financial responsibility for their own risk contribution, as with EVERY other form of insurance.
@ABSpryteCube It is so weird to see how often major parts of the American middle class are voting for a system that really doesn’t do anything for them and on the other hand they go nuts over something from what the really would? benefit.
@gurkotron The man is a predictable american conservative, to soon to call idiot, and he? himself doesn’t give facts or statistics like you….there needs to be a balance between privatized industry and socialist industry something like germany’s system would work really well in the U.S.
@thereinliestherib Then isn’t the pledge in education?? or criminalizing certain food? ingredients that hurt health (High Fructose corn syrup, Red 40, yellow 6, etc.) ?? did you know that Denmark recently made the use of Trans Stout as an ingredient in food ILLEGAL? there’s always a solution, but we can’t just stand around pointing fingers, a solution must be found and compromised upon, that’s how things get done…I like Obama for that reason he’s focusing on the solution….
@gurkotron Aptly but a lot of conservatives have a problem with that because they don’t like? to pay taxes, which is BS, Germany has a very thriving system in which the USA could learn from
@thereinliestherib I’m sorry my opinion isn’t that of yours, but just like Mr. Ron Paul himself would have said it,? I don’t agree what you say, but i’ll defend to the death your aptly to say it
have a fantastic day
@thereinliestherib Regarding the healthiness of Americans. Life span USA = 78 years, Germany = 79, thats no wide difference. Your picture of European has to be adjusted, regarding the stoutness in Europe we are not far away from the US level. Its a pity that its not possible to post direct associations on youtube
other wise? I would show you our insight on stout Germans 
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@thereinliestherib Appealing you still believe in your prejudices then in the official figures. Regarding the “burger tax”, we don’t have that in Germany, food prices in Germany are the lowest on the total European? continent, even Walmart couldn’t hold out against the German discounters. Really the “Industry” was able to avert a law on labeling food with so called “healt-signals” – like red for terrible and green for excellent. Our consumer department is so pro industry.
@gurkotron Are you fucking serious? Are you calling Americans healthy, when 75% of us can’t see? our toes over our bellies? You’ve got to be fucking joking. The other point is that Western european countries with socialized care also have taxes on the unhealthy goods/services/behaviors which directly contribute to systematic costs. Is there a burger tax in america? Your data is absolutely erroneous. Our health rates are worse than any other country on the planet.
@thereinliestherib Here you go – lung cancer capita rate per 100.000 (males / 2006 – according to national cancer society) US = 65 (decreasing) / Germany = 79 (constant) , percent of deaths caused by heart attacks and strokes (according to cdc.gov 2010) US = 29,9 % – Germany 41,1%, really you’re income in a healthy nation, HC costs per capita (according to wiki 2008) US = 7.536 $, Germany = 3.692 $, appealing? isn’t it? Also the stout peoples fault?
@gurkotron Our system is expensive because Americans are unhealthy fatties–end of tale.? That’s why nearly eveyr measure in Obamacare is designed to force more costs onto the low risk.
@gurkotron Oh look–a fake analogy!? Imagine my surprise. Tell me, what are per capita rates for stoutness/smoking and other poor health habits in Germany compared to the US?
@thereinliestherib Do you have any thought how ancient the health care system in Germany is? And about your uninsured status – wouldn’t Obama-Care change that? Regarding the profit -? the US has the most expensive HC system in the world, who do you reckon is profiting from that? And in the end you’re defending a system that keeps you out? – weird
@gurkotron And I like? how you idiots decry the “free market” when the failure to see it as a market is EXACTLY why we have no solutions; meanwhile, your “socialism” is really for-profit.
@gurkotron Piss? off–I’m uninsured, and at least I know its only because others’ risk and regulatory laws prevent me from purchasing at my own risk level.
@thereinliestherib That was no illusory example thats the risk for 30 million Americans. For sure if you already bleed out of you’re ass you? don’t need a doctor to tell you that is something incorrect. But excellent luck finding emergency-parts for your intestines on the free market – there is a reason why it’s called intensive care.
@ABSpryteCube That’s such crap. The solution is forcing people to take fiscal responsibility for their added risk, just like EVERY other form of? insurance. That’s REAL regulation.
@gurkotron That’s a quantitatively illusory example. By and large, the analogy? remains the same. Preventative care is just the industry asking for more care (manufactured goods) whose costs are forced onto consumers through mandate. Its ridiculous. My mechanic will be liable to find a transmission problem at 200k miles after checking up every week prior to that, but its just about the money. Why is that not obvious???
@ABSpryteCube Piss off and stop interneting at your HC co board meeting. The pledge is requiring people to take fiscal responsibility for their health, and allowing the healthy to buy honest coverage for their own relative risk level–you know, like every other fucking insurance market in existence. Your solution amounts to nothing more than a poster campaign by the stout first lady whose husband is the gd smoker/drinker who? says I should pay for his future illnesses.
@ABSpryteCube Piss off and stop interneting at your HC co board meeting. The pledge is requiring people to take fiscal responsibility for their health, and allowing the healthy to buy honest coverage for their own relative risk level–you know, like every other fucking insurance market in existence. Your solution amounts to nothing more than a poster campaign by the stout first lady whose? husband is the gd smoker/drinker who says I should pay for his future illnesses.